I was so fortunate to have been invited by Rebecca Wong to be on her wonderful Connectfulness Practice podcast. It was a joy to talk with her, and, what a listener she is! Rebecca is a relationship therapist who loves helping people get real and reconnected in their relationships.

In our interview, we dove into what happens when a couple does a survival dance, and how to safely navigate that and ultimately regain connection.

I hope you’ll listen. Our interview was done across two episodes. Episode one is here. Episode two is here.